This will quickly get off-topic, but....

On Tue, 24 May 2005 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>
>2) Some folks have no control of what applications/versions are
>   on their desktops.
>...
>
>That is a poor excuse.
>If you need it to do your job, you should have the capability installed.

Preaching to the choir.  But it is a fact of life at every shop I've
consulted at.  Can't say "for every shop I've worked for" since I
spent my prior 10 years consulting.  13 years ago I worked from a
"dumb terminal".

>
>Standard desktops make administrative (read $) sense,
>but most IT-types need non-standard stuff.

True. But at least here there are different "standard images".
A unix techie gets a different desktop than I do, but it is
still standard for that group and has other standard apps
that are for all.

As far as some non-standard stuff, that is why some of us
still have admin rights to our own machines (which we had
to fight for).

>
>I just went through this at my new shop.
>Articulate your needs, rather than b*tch!
>

Needs vs. wants.  Adobe 5 works fine.  I've never run across
a PDF I can't open with it (although some give you a warning
about not supporting newer features used). At any rate, in
many (most?) cases, it doesn't matter.  When I was a full time
consultant, there was certainly no point in trying to fight the
red tape on these types of things.  It just makes you look bad to
your client. I ran into road blocks all the time that affected
my productivity.  That was when I started developing my own
tools or using freeware tools.

Mark
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