Comments interspersed.

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:04:51 -0700, Edward E. Jaffe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Eric Bielefeld wrote:
>
>>...  The fact the IBM, when
>>announcing new hardware, usually prints MIPS in their charts says that it
>>is still a valid number.
>>
>
>Which charts? A web URL would be helpful.

The charts I am referring to were handed out in Nov. 2004 at an IBM
Roadshow meeting.  The presentation is titled "zSeries z900 and z990 Update
2004" and was givin by Bob Neidig of IBM.  If you really wonder, I could
fax you 1 or 2, but the presentation is filled with MIPS.  I doubt if this
was ever put on a web page.
>
>>  I'm not saying it is best, or that there isn't
>>problems with MIPS, but the MIPS numbers still make more sense to me than
>>any other indicators.
>>
>>
>
>MSU values are reported by the hardware. MIPS values aren't. That single
>difference makes MIPS inherently less useful than MSU -- all other
>things being equal. See:
>
>http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0411&L=ibm-main&P=R35634
>

I also qualified the use of MIPS in my original comment by saying that
comparisons within a line of computers, such as z/890 & z/990.  Comparing a
1 processor z/990 to a 30 processor z/990 should give a good comparison if
you are using MIPS.  Obviously, your particular workload may give somewhat
different numbers, but then it probably would with MSUs also.

MIPS have been around a lot longer than MSUs.  They are more familiar to
me, which is why I like them.  I still remember my 158 with an attached
processor.  The main CPU alone gave 1 MIP, and with the AP, it was 1.8
MIPS.  Back in 1980, that was a good sized machine.

Eric Bielefeld
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