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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 06/23/2005
   at 01:56 PM, "Duffy, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Something came up yesterday that I thought was worth sharing, as I'm
>concerned about it.  This looks like a wave of the future and it
>makes change control on mainframes a potential nightmare if other
>vendors do this.

Yes.

>In the vaporware version in the demo they showed how simple it was
>to install and begin joining data elements together in a GUI and
>allow ad hoc inquiries in a "point and click and report" kind of
>way.

No problem with that; you have essentially the same capability in QBE,
albeit not GUIfied.

>So a DBA or a developer could get a CD in the mail for a trial, load
>it on their PC, install this puppy in an hour (vendor estimate) and,
>at this site, they could join all vehicle records to all service
>records for three years in a matter of seconds in the GUI and
>download gigs of data to their PC until it gakked on the data
>volume.

They can do it now, if your access controls allow.

>When I asked about if there was an SMP/E install procedure, they
>looked at me with a quizzical look and said, "sure we cut SMF
>records." 

Now *there* is the problem. That vendor should be kept well away from
production on your system until they acquire a clue.

>When I tried to explain the differences between SMP/E and SMF they 
>were lost.

Explain that it is the MVS standard for maintaining an audit trail of
software installation and maintenance,  and that you aren't interested
until they have SMP installation and maintenance.

>Has anyone else seen this sort of product installation method?

The details are different, but there have been discussions before on
the lack of SMP competence at specific vendors. Has CA[1] finally
cleaned up its act?

[1] Not that they're the only ones, but the are the most visible.
 
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     Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
     ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> 
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
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