Bill,

My reply assumed nothing. I merely posed some questions. Here are two more:

Where are the development $$$ for this new service to fix an issue that has 
been known for 30 years? 
Do you really want to increase system overhead by adding *code bloat* for 
normal close processing just so you can get statistics of files closed 
improperly?

I would prefer we fix the problems not the statistics. Stop the "close 
immediate" or accept the consequences. For abends, shoot the programmer 
responsible! <grin> Better yet, let him code his own error handling routines if 
the stats are that important to him. 

Bob 

 -----Original Message-----
From:   IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of 
Bill Fairchild
Sent:   Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:58 AM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

 
In a message dated 7/6/2005 5:22:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
> In the case of an ABEND or CICS "close immediate" situation, what  
information would you like Mark to write to the file? And where is this  
information 
supposed to come from?

 
I think you are assuming there is only one way to "fix" this  problem.  E.g., 
in the case of SMF data the solution is called interval  accounting.  Every X 
minutes SMF records are written to reflect the  activity during the last X 
minutes.  The VSAM statistics in question could  be updated on intervals.  You 
will miss all the activity that occurs during  the last partial interval just 
before a system crash.  Application programs  or even access methods (e.g., at 
OPEN time) could be enhanced to add ABEND  recovery routines that invoke a new 
service which would add the last partial  interval's stats into the proper 
buckets.  This assumes the stats are kept  in storage that was not trashed as 
part of the error leading to the ABEND.   If the operator FORCEs the job or the 
system crashes, there is no hope.   But for most abnormal ends there are ways 
to "fix" the stats.  The  information comes from the same place where it comes 
from now in the case of  normal CLOSE.  The minimum we would need is a new 
service which the user  would invoke to update stats.
 
Bill Fairchild


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