Sounds like a nightmare. PTF's in error, even if it's SMP packaging, used to
be a big no, no.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Hylton Tom P
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SMP sloppiness


Cathy, 

I already had an "well you should try DB2 SMP sometime" in hand when your
response popped in.

I'll just say "ditto" and say that on db2 application binds the standard
hold action or bind instructions consists of  
"You need to reference APAR xxxxx to see why a rebind is necessary.   You
may need to bind your application to make this change effective."  I've
almost got it down by heart.  

And there are MANY MANY of these just waiting for me to hunt and peck thru
IBMLINK to find.   

tom



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Taddei, Cathy
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SMP sloppiness


Oh, you think that's bad? Currently, I install and maintain DB2, whose
holddata has always been prodigious.  A reference to the PTF cover letter is
not what I call a packaging problem.  What I call a packaging problem is
when PTF's that should be coreq'd are not.  About a year ago, I put on a
HIPER PTF, and the DB2 COPY utility broke.  IBM did not believe it was their
problem, so I spent many hours recreating it in every possible way, and
insisted that they fix it.  They finally asked for my load library, with
which they were able to recreate the problem. It turned out that the PTF
that "broke" COPY addressed a problem in one internal component of that
utility, and to fix the breakage I needed to apply an earlier (non-HIPER)
PTF which addressed a corresponding component of the COPY utility.  I tried
pointing out (with great vigor!) that the later PTF should have co-req'd the
earlier one, or should have had a DEP hold, but they saw no problem with
their packaging.  That's what I get for trying to keep up with HIPER's.

Been waiting a long time to get that one off my chest!

<SNIP>

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