Really basic changes, but we use a custom USS table here. 

Of course, this is assuming that we're all using the TLA "USS" in the
correct manner.  <G, D, and R>

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Martin Kline
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: USSTAB

I appreciate the continued discussion. It's interesting banter.

I have indeed opened an ETR with IBM as a low-priority problem. Progress
is 
as expected, slow, though I have gotten the support person to agree
there 
is/are issue(s).

I'm not sure how this would be a "requirement." I just want the code to
work 
as documented. Untimately, I would prefer the code to work logically and

precisely under control of the systems programmer. I'm afraid the end
result 
will be changed documentation instead. If that's all I get, I plan to
continue 
pushing until the documentation clearly outlines the limitations and
restrictions 
that are currently hidden in the code.

As for Chris Mason's reference to "incompetent" developers, I would not
be so 
harsh. I certainly appreciate Chris's support and in-depth knowledge of 
networks, and have often found his comments to be quite valuable. I have

never worked for IBM, but I have worked with their support for over 30
years. 
Some time ago IBM would not have tolerated the 'sloppy' implementation
of  
system symbols in USS tables. ('Sloppy' is my term). These days, though,
as 
with quite a few US-based companies, 'competent' means 'good enough'. 
And, 'good enough' means just barely enough to meet the designer's
specs, 
ignoring any obvious or discovered shortcomings. It's not the
developer's job 
to point out flaws in the design, and oftentimes, doing so only results
in the 
developer being reprimanded by "incompetent" managers for going outside
the 
scope of the project, even it it could produce a better final product.
It's also 
not the tester's job to do more than test the ability of the code to
perform 
the bare minimum to meet the design, nor to even understand subtle 
characteristics of the environment that could affect the ability of the
product 
to work under all conditions. So, not knowing what constraints the
developers 
may have had, I hesitate to single them out as incompetent, when it may 
actually be the environment under which they work that values quantity
over 
quality and causes them to produce less than stellar results.

Sorry. I read over that paragraph a couple times, and I just don't see
how to 
make my point without the soap box. I'll make a note to have my soap box

burned and the horse buried later. (references to preaching from atop a
soap 
box, and to beating a 'dead horse' (overworked subject) to death).

BTW, for everyone (anyone?) who bothered to read this far, how many use
a 
custom USS table? Is it just Chris, Patrick, myself and a couple other
people in 
the world?


Patrick said: 
>The product is "working as designed".  If you want this changed you're
going
>to have to submit a Requirement with a very strong business case.
Fixing.
>USS design flaws isn't going to be very high on anybody's list.

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