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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:29 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
> 
> >>> On 8/18/2009 at  9:55 AM, Howard Brazee 
> <[email protected]> wrote: 
> -snip-
> > So what are the minimum requirements that a product must 
> have to be an
> > "operating system"?
> 
> I can't speak for anyone else, but for me there needs to be:
> - Some way to interact with the system (operator's 
> console/commands, in Linux this would be a shell)
> - Some way to compile/assemble/link programs

ACP on the S/370 did not have any compilers. The programs were developed on MVT 
and/or MVS, as I recall from working at Braniff Airways.

> - Some way to edit a text file (IEBUPDATE, PDF, etc.)

ACP didn't have any editors either.

> - Some sort of printer driver (HASP, JESx, CUPS)

IIRC, an ACP transaction could drive a printer (somehow - I'm not ACP literate, 
really).

> 
> And probably other things, but you get the idea.  Those 
> things that make computers actually useful.
> 
> 
> Mark Post

So, most "embedded operating systems" are not really an OS, by your 
requirements.

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