On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:19:59 -0600, R Hey <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Frank/List,
>
>My client has some very big SORT jobs.
>When a few run at the the same time, the page DS USE% increases
>(demanding paging).
>
>Q1-
>How do I make sure BIG sort jobs don't use too many frames,
>when they are hard to get?
>
>Q2-
>Given the sort options we use, is it true that
>SORT will use TMAXLIM size of storage,
>then if data is too big, it will increase the storage use to max of DSA
>size?
>So it never goes over DSA size?
>
>Q3-
>If I get
>ICE199I 0 MEMORY OBJECT STORAGE USED = 3463M BYTES
>it means 3.4GB of data was sorted in memory, right?
>
>Q4-
>If YES to both Q2/Q3, then how is 3GB of data is sorted in 64M of memory
>(our DSA)
>If, not, how does it work?
>
>Q5-
>We use SIZE=MAX, but the job has SIZE=32259547 (it can be different for
>another run).
>Is this because the size of data being sorted determines the actual SIZE
>used?
>
>
>TIA,
>Rez
>
>
>Our sort option are:
>
>MODULE         ICEAM1
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>ARESALL        0
>ARESINV        NOT APPLICABLE
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>DSA            64
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>DYNALOC        (SYSALLDA,3)
>               * (SYSDA,4)
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>EXPMAX         MAX
>EXPOLD         MAX
>EXPRES         0
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>HIPRMAX        OPTIMAL
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>MAXLIM         1048576
>MINLIM         450560
>MOSIZE         MAX
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>OVERRGN        65536
>RESALL         4096
>RESET          YES
>RESINV         NOT APPLICABLE
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>SIZE           MAX
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>TMAXLIM        6291456
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>VIO            NO
>
>
>joblog had:
>
>ICE193I 0 ICEAM1 ENVIRONMENT IN EFFECT - ICEAM1 INSTALLATION
>MODULE
>SELECTED
>ICE088I 5 PAK328 .SORT305 . , INPUT LRECL = 650, BLKSIZE = 27950, TYPE =
>FB
>ICE093I 0 MAIN STORAGE = (MAX,32259547,32259547)
>ICE156I 0 MAIN STORAGE ABOVE 16MB = (32122707,32122707)
>ICE127I 0 OPTIONS: OVFLO=RC0 ,PAD=RC0 ,TRUNC=RC0
>,SPANINC=RC16,VLSCMP=N,SZERO=Y,RESET=Y,VSAMEMT=Y,DYNSPC=256
>
>ICE128I 0 OPTIONS:
>SIZE=32259547,MAXLIM=1048576,MINLIM=450560,EQUALS=N,LIST=Y,ERET=AB
>END,MS
>GDDN=SYSOUT
>ICE129I 0 OPTIONS: VIO=N,RESDNT=ALL ,SMF=NO
>,WRKSEC=Y,OUTSEC=Y,VERIFY=N,CHALT=N,DYNALOC=
>(SCRATCH ,004),ABCODE=MSG
>ICE130I 0 OPTIONS: RESALL=4096,RESINV=0,SVC=109
>,CHECK=N,WRKREL=Y,OUTREL=Y,CKPT=N,STIMER=Y,COBEXIT=COB2
>
>ICE131I 0 OPTIONS:
>TMAXLIM=6291456,ARESALL=0,ARESINV=0,OVERRGN=65536,CINV=Y,CFW=Y,DS
>A=64
>ICE132I 0 OPTIONS:
>VLSHRT=N,ZDPRINT=Y,IEXIT=N,TEXIT=N,LISTX=N,EFS=NONE
>,EXITCK=S,PARMDDN=DFSPARM ,FSZEST=N
>ICE133I 0 OPTIONS: HIPRMAX=OPTIMAL,DSPSIZE=MAX
>,ODMAXBF=0,SOLRF=Y,VLLONG=N,VSAMIO=N,MOSIZE=MAX
>ICE235I 0 OPTIONS: NULLOUT=RC0
>ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SORTOUT
>ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SORTIN
>ICE750I 0 DC 3576062750 TC 0 CS DSVVV KSZ 36 VSZ 36
>ICE752I 0 FSZ=5501635 RC IGN=0 E AVG=652 0 WSP=4658983 C DYN=0
>0
>ICE751I 1 BA-K22788 BB-K24705 BC-K24705 E8-K90013
>ICE090I 0 OUTPUT LRECL = 650, BLKSIZE = 27950, TYPE = FB (SDB)
>ICE080I 0 IN MAIN STORAGE SORT
>ICE055I 0 INSERT 0, DELETE 0
>ICE054I 0 RECORDS - IN: 5501623, OUT: 5501623
>ICE134I 0 NUMBER OF BYTES SORTED: 3576054950
>ICE165I 0 TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 0 , TRACKS USED:
>0
>ICE199I 0 MEMORY OBJECT STORAGE USED = 3463M BYTES
>ICE180I 0 HIPERSPACE STORAGE USED = 0K BYTES
>ICE188I 0 DATA SPACE STORAGE USED = 0K BYTES
>ICE052I 0 END OF DFSORT
>


Recommend you start at the IBM DFSORT home-page where there are several
documentation and supplemental technical references on DFSORT and memory usage.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

Suggested Google advanced search argument on this topic:

dfsort memory usage site:ibm.com

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