Hello and thank you,
I'll try to explain better the situation that I encountered a month ago. I'm a 
Control Room operator  and we were asked to shutdown  & IPL an LPAR. The main 
console was down due to an unplanned maintanace, so I had to use the  Operating 
System Messages console within the HMC. I launched the closure clist that 
usually works fine. Anyway, at a certain point during the closure on the 
console I start receiving messages that 
the buffers were full. So I tought that issueing a "K Q" command will fix it. 
Unfortunately, it didn't happened so - "The command is not available for 
extended consoles".During this time I wasn't able to send any command.  After 
15 minutes or so, the situation turned to normal "magically". Of corse I had to 
finish closing all the task manually.  Next day I asked our ZOS guys if there 
is some command available, but I didn't received any clear response. So, here I 
am.... It seems strange that in this case there is nothing that can be done!
BTW:  this was the only partition up&running on the PLEX so sending commands 
from other LPAR's was out of the question

I saw also an older post on the IBM MAIN Archive that explain pretty well how 
the EMCS works - it think it was Kevin Kelley.

Perhaps it was a stupid question ... I'm a rookie ... but that's how you learn 
things
Thank you once again,
Bye

Dan Gherciu




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Da: W. Kevin Kelley <[email protected]>
A: [email protected]
Inviato: Mer 7 luglio 2010, 01:43:14
Oggetto: Re: Console vs HMC Operating System Messages

On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 08:15:17 -0500, Dan Gherciu <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>Is there any "K Q" equivalent  command available for the HMC Operating 
System Messages?
>

Dan, 

No, there is no equivalent of the K Q command for the EMCS console 
interface, which is the interface that is behind the HMC System Console. Most 
users of the interface have the ability to manipulate the queue of messages 
presented to the interface, so a K Q equivalent for them is unnecessary. 
There is no way for the System Console to manipulate its message queues 
(indeed there are two of them: one on the z/OS console support side -- an 
EMCS queue, and another within the HMC). Conceptually it wouldn't be too 
hard to provide a K Q equivalent for the z/OS console support side; the HMC 
guys would have to get involved for their side. I suspect that solving the z/OS 
console support side of the problem would probably fix or relieve the HMC side 
as well. If solving this problem is important to you, then I would suggest 
submitting a requirement through SHARE.

We would be interested in hearing about what you use the HMC System 
Console for.

W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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