On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:57:39 +1000, Shane Ginnane <ibm- [email protected]> wrote:
> >I have a customer that has the HMC secured and (completely) isolated; no LAN access, no >terminals, no people, nuthin' ... >You get in that room, you use the "Operating System Messages" interface. >And quickly come to appreciate the shortcomings of said interface ... > Shane, We are currently working with a large European customer that has also had to fallback onto the HMC System Console recently and had problems, so any discussion of the HMC System Console shortcomings is very timely. We are well aware of the shortcomings of the HMC System Console (and we learn of new shortcomings from time to time). I think it is fair to say that we know of several things that could be done to improve the HMC System Console experience -- some of them quite radical -- but without requirements (from SHARE) that we can point to (or a REALLY BIG customer that's gotten themselves into trouble), its really difficult to get things like HMC System Console improvements into our plan. To do so, we don't do something else, and we need good reasons to make that trade-off. I think if you check the archives you'll see that I've discussed the HMC System Console several times before. I ran the task force within IBM in the late 1980's that defined the architecture (and I've got the patent to prove it) that the system console command and message streams and BCPii ride on top of, so I feel a certain amount of ownership, and I still stick my nose into this stuff when (and while) I still can. W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
