Ted, I've got a lot of successful third-party mainframe product management experience.
I'm sure every "shop" knows what they are doing but salespeople, sales support people, and tech support people don't talk to "shops," they talk to individuals at shops, and not every individual is comfortable with "just do it." This is not some weird notion of mine alone. Read Tony Harminc's post on the subject. Yes, no matter what we say in a manual, a shop will do it the way they want to do it. I'm going to say what the prerequisites are and that they are free to do it any way that works for them. Why are you so opposed to my mentioning some recommended approaches? Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question >So humor me, I'm not much of an operations person as you can tell, where would that be? >One alternative is "your console automation system" but what are the recommended vanilla IBM alternatives? >- A $VS command in the JESx initialization data set. >- Where else? None of those! Just tell us the requirements and prerequisites. Each shop has different ways to deal with them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

