Ted, I've got a lot of successful third-party mainframe product management
experience.

I'm sure every "shop" knows what they are doing but salespeople, sales
support people, and tech support people don't talk to "shops," they talk to
individuals at shops, and not every individual is comfortable with "just do
it." This is not some weird notion of mine alone. Read Tony Harminc's post
on the subject.

Yes, no matter what we say in a manual, a shop will do it the way they want
to do it. I'm going to say what the prerequisites are and that they are free
to do it any way that works for them. Why are you so opposed to my
mentioning some recommended approaches?

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question

>So humor me, I'm not much of an operations person as you can tell, where
would that be?
>One alternative is "your console automation system" but what are the
recommended vanilla IBM alternatives?

>- A $VS command in the JESx initialization data set.
>- Where else?

None of those!

Just tell us the requirements and prerequisites.
Each shop has different ways to deal with them.

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