Thanks for your kind words. It's easy to feel beat-up here no matter what
you say or do.

Charles

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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:03 AM
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Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question

Hmm ... I worked for a software company as a consultant in a previous life 
... Client-server app builder ... They used an IP listener to manage the 
upload/download of the application software ... Setting this up as a 
started task and then explaining to Ops/Automation that the only way to 
stop it was to Cancel the Started task was not fun (against their 
operational procedures) .... 

However, Credit to Charles for putting these questions out there and 
attempting to get a common approach .... 
 
 



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Thanks, Barbara. I admit I had given no thought (so far) to this issue. 
I'm
going to start a new thread on this topic.

Charles

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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question

>Since you say it can handle waiting for TCPIP on it's own, what's the
>diff? If I want it during limited function "system checkout time" I'd
>use COMMNDxx. Otherwise the automation.

To reiterate: The difference is shutdown. If TCPIP services are needed for 

successful shutdown, then the product MUST be shutdown before TCPIP 
services go away. Or there needs to be a lot more code to test that IP 
services are always available and to handle a graceful shutdown in the 
absence of TCPIP.

Barbara Nitz

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