Thanks for your kind words. It's easy to feel beat-up here no matter what you say or do.
Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Nuttall Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question Hmm ... I worked for a software company as a consultant in a previous life ... Client-server app builder ... They used an IP listener to manage the upload/download of the application software ... Setting this up as a started task and then explaining to Ops/Automation that the only way to stop it was to Cancel the Started task was not fun (against their operational procedures) .... However, Credit to Charles for putting these questions out there and attempting to get a common approach .... "Charles Mills" <[email protected]> Sent by: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" <[email protected]> 28/09/2010 03:51 PM Please respond to "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" <[email protected]> To [email protected] cc Subject Re: Really dumb IPL question Thanks, Barbara. I admit I had given no thought (so far) to this issue. I'm going to start a new thread on this topic. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question >Since you say it can handle waiting for TCPIP on it's own, what's the >diff? If I want it during limited function "system checkout time" I'd >use COMMNDxx. Otherwise the automation. To reiterate: The difference is shutdown. If TCPIP services are needed for successful shutdown, then the product MUST be shutdown before TCPIP services go away. Or there needs to be a lot more code to test that IP services are always available and to handle a graceful shutdown in the absence of TCPIP. Barbara Nitz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail message, including any attachments transmitted with it, is CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. This message is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and delete it from your system. Please visit our website to read the full disclaimer: http://www.euroclear.com/site/public/disclaimer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

