My $.02 says to leave it as is. In my shop, we have 2 RES volumes that we swap between for fixes and upgrades, rather than a single SMP/E-owned volume that gets cloned to different RES volumes. I would much rather rely on the HOLD data and/or serverpac upgrade step that tells me to put the IPL text on the RES volume than to have SMP/E automatically put it on without telling me. If I was doing the cloning, having the reminder earlier in the process (as part of the install) would help my old, feeble, forgetful mind remember to run the ICKDSF job when I'm ready to roll the new software to the RES/IPL volume.
Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IPLTEXT and NUCLEUS dates On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:50:37 +0000, Rob Scott <[email protected]> wrote: >John, > >>> Why can't SMP/E do the ICKDSF PUTIPL command as well? It should know the volser to update - it is the one containing the updated SYS1.NUCLEUS. > >Surely most sites do not IPL their system from the SMP/E volumes and datasets - there is normally some sort of propagation JCL to copy to "real" runtime SYSRES volumes - and as stated previously there is no harm to suffix that copy JCL with a PUTIPL. > Many do - at least in a sandbox (I have been at shops in the past that have done it that way... especially before DASD was "cheap"). I haven't been in a shop that did it that way in quite a while, but my current shop (and most others I've been at) do clone via full volume copy of their maintenance volume, so that is essentially the same thing. However... Some of the shops I've been at clone via logical copy instead of full volume copy of their IBM maintenance sysres, in that case, doing the task within SMP/E wouldn't do anything put create a WTOR for someone to respond to. Of course those cloning procedures included a step to create IPLTEXT every time you cloned, so it wouldn't have been an issue regardless. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:[email protected] Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

