TSO is any better give me a break, like every thing else depends how you
know how to use it
and BTW what did ICCF have to do w/ DASD ?
Mark Pace
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John, you do NOT want ICCF on z/OS. ICCF, IMHO, one of the worst editors
ever.
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:39 AM, McKown, John
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> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Macioce
> > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:24 AM
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> > Subject: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
> >
> > A colleague and I were talking as we feel the powers to be
> > are looking
> > at "options other than the mainframe". The talk went to
> > dollars and cents I
> > stated the price of a z box has dropped big(for our size
> > shop) but the cost of
> > purchasing dasd is still high along with maint.
> > His question was why can't mvs use scsi or san dasd, VSE and VM can.
> > We looked around the web could find nothing on it.
> > Thoughts??
> > thanks
> > Mace
>
> FlexCUB. But it only supports Escon, not Ficon. It emulates 3390 on SAN /
> PC type disk.
>
> I think part of the problem is with the support for legacy PDS and files
> with "hardware keys". Searching a PDS directory for a member is a very
> simple CCW chain. And is used a lot in IPL and NIP. So the first thing
that
> would need to be done is to have IPL and NIP be able to support PDSE. Or,
> even better, something which has "members" but is superior to PDSE. I
don't
> know why z/OS cannot use the CMS file system. It works, as you said, for
> z/VM. Or use whatever z/VSE uses for its libraries. I'm not z/VSE
literate.
> And then there is the VTOC. It also has hardware keys. Now I'm curious
how
> z/VSE supports FBA disks. Time to go look at some books.
>
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