>> He was talking about TCA.
[Ron Hawkins]
> He was talking about True Copy Asynch? I don't get the connection.

Total cost of acquisition.


>>Just because I'm using a non-company e-mail, maybe because they do not
want
>Ms people to appear to be their spokespeople, does not invalidate my
response.
> 
>[Ron Hawkins] 
>Oh fiddlesticks. I don't use a company email either. Go take a paranoia pill 
>and stop building straw men.

And, then what did your comment mean, about my e-mail address?

>> And, I went through it, a couple of times!
[Ron Hawkins] 
>What did you go through? Therapy?

Ad hominem!


> 
> >It looks more to me like it was someone else's complaint, related to you
at
> SCIDS or similar.
> 
> Glad you can read minds!
> 
> It was a job interview, and it was one of his issues.
>[Ron Hawkins] 
>What did your email say? >Let's see now:

>" I was discussing this with a Storage Manager at a large Canadian Bank."
>OK, let's do multiple choice. This sounds like you were having:
>   a) A job interview

So, now I have to give a detailed description of every conversation I've ever 
had?

>     b) A conversation at SCIDS

Never been to SCIDS.

>     c) A PTA meeting

Ad hominem

>     d) A triple latte at the coffee machine

Ad hominem.


>> Mine, as well.
>> I lived through it, at one (or more) site(s).
>W[Ron Hawkins] 
OK, calm down Ted. I'm glad you lived through it.

I made a comment.
You attacked.
Maybe lived through it is too livid for your taste.

But, I've attempted to explain that we have bought the same hardware for open 
and z and the z version cost more.


>We all know these things
are like surviving in a Chilean Copper mine. 

Ha! Ha!

>So, I'm just checking for where your mentioned your experience in the email
we are referring to. 

>Bank Manager says "His biggest complaint was that the same DASD cost more if
he used it under z/OS than the case under LINUX/AIX/UNIX/etc."

>Ted says... errr, ahh, hmmm, well I don't see anything you said about your
experience Ted.
>Am I supposed to read your mind?

Gee, I forgot to consolidate every e-mail I've ever posted!

>> Just because it does not match your experience, it's not invalid.
>[Ron Hawkins] 
You never told us what your experience is, and I did not say your Bank 
Manager's opinion is invalid: are you reading my mind.

You did say it doesn't happen.

>You didn't provide any qualification or quantification of his comment, so I 
>offered an opinion as to what I thought the scope of the comment may be. 
>What's your problem with that? In your whole life you have never said "I think 
>what he meant
was..." 

>Ted, in that email you just repeated someone else's experience and did not
mention your own.

I did originally.


>[Ron Hawkins] 
I really try my best to stick to the facts when I respond to you Ted, but I 
really can do without this sort of insult and your boorish lack of respect
for others.

I see!
Therapy & SCIDS!
That must show respect, in spades.


>when I read your EXCP/IOTM comment the other week
I almost fell off the chair laughing. How do you get the same thing wrong
twice?

I'm not sure what you're talking about here, but I was stating, if I have this 
correct, that there was an option to change EXCPs to connect time, rather than 
blocks transfered.n
You disagreed, and I told you when it happened.
If it's something else, than I'm lost.


>Mate, here's your big chance. Step up to the plate and describe where in
those three paragraphs I attack you in that email response, or STFU.

The SCIDS comment, for one.
This, I read as ridicule.

> 
>> It happened, and nothing you can say will change that!
>[Ron Hawkins] 
>Errr what happened?

Read the post.
"This" was the fact that it cost more for the same hardware under 'z' than 
under open.
I didn't think I had to repeat that which was already stated.

> -
>> I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
>[Ron Hawkins] 
>Well, I don't agree that you're a superhero. You need to find someone else to 
>debate the level of your other abilities.

Of course, that was NOT an attack.


>Well done Ted, you just pushed all my buttons.

That was NOT my intent.
I've been involved three times with DASD costing more for the same hardware on 
'z' than open.
One of my posts asked why, and you stated it has never happened in your 
experience, and when I stated it had you started this set of responses.

I had also stated that I had a discusion with a Storage Manager at a large 
Canadian Bank, even before you chimed in with that comment about it not 
happening.

I didn't realise I had to tape the comments and provide a notarised affidavit.

Suddenly, we're at odds.
If that's boorish, fine.


>Ron (who usually plays well with others) 

NOT this time.

-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
Kimota!

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