Yep, I agree with Sam and John, been at singce 360/20 days and Netbeans or vc++ 
or vc# has better debuggers and editors than or friendly z/OS.
In regard to inventing something, I am a developer, but my time is better spend 
in areas making money for the guys i work for.
Besides, the new kids coming in what all the smoke/mirrors/snakebite oil to do 
everything for them. 


I dont know about everyone else, no one handed the work I do to me on a silver 
platter, I came up through the ranks..
 
Scott J Ford
 




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From: Sam Siegel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 3:56:12 PM
Subject: Re: Mainframe Fresher

<snip>

> But typing COBOL code in ISPF is literally slower for me than typing Java 
> code 
>in Netbeans. Due in part to Netbean's intelligent auto-completion. When I 
>start 
>typing a variable name, about 80%+ of the time, Netbeans has a "in line" 
>suggestion which I can select with a simple press of the ENTER key. ISPF has 
>no 
>smarts at all like this. RDz may, I don't know. Part of this is due to the 
>more 
>intelligent integration of the Java compiler with Netbeans. I've never had 
>anything even vaguely similar to this on the mainframe. With Netbeans, I 
>instantly know when I've misspelled something. With ISPF, I don't generally 
>know 
>until I do a compile. Which takes a while around here to due to the CPU 
>constraints. Of course, what is needed is a good COBOL IDE on Windows for our 
>programmers. One which knows COBOL syntax and can at least catch some variable 
>name misspellings instantly. This would be far too costly to implement on the 
>mainframe, even if possible.
>
<end-snip>

The development and debugging facilities avaible on Windows, Java and
Unix in general are so far superior to those facilities on z/OS it is
similar to comparing a private automobiles from the Model A era (1927
- 1931) to high end private automobiles (Bentley continental GT or
S-series Mercedes).

Basically there is no comparison.

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