Yep, I agree with Sam and John, been at singce 360/20 days and Netbeans or vc++ or vc# has better debuggers and editors than or friendly z/OS. In regard to inventing something, I am a developer, but my time is better spend in areas making money for the guys i work for. Besides, the new kids coming in what all the smoke/mirrors/snakebite oil to do everything for them.
I dont know about everyone else, no one handed the work I do to me on a silver platter, I came up through the ranks.. Scott J Ford ________________________________ From: Sam Siegel <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 3:56:12 PM Subject: Re: Mainframe Fresher <snip> > But typing COBOL code in ISPF is literally slower for me than typing Java > code >in Netbeans. Due in part to Netbean's intelligent auto-completion. When I >start >typing a variable name, about 80%+ of the time, Netbeans has a "in line" >suggestion which I can select with a simple press of the ENTER key. ISPF has >no >smarts at all like this. RDz may, I don't know. Part of this is due to the >more >intelligent integration of the Java compiler with Netbeans. I've never had >anything even vaguely similar to this on the mainframe. With Netbeans, I >instantly know when I've misspelled something. With ISPF, I don't generally >know >until I do a compile. Which takes a while around here to due to the CPU >constraints. Of course, what is needed is a good COBOL IDE on Windows for our >programmers. One which knows COBOL syntax and can at least catch some variable >name misspellings instantly. This would be far too costly to implement on the >mainframe, even if possible. > <end-snip> The development and debugging facilities avaible on Windows, Java and Unix in general are so far superior to those facilities on z/OS it is similar to comparing a private automobiles from the Model A era (1927 - 1931) to high end private automobiles (Bentley continental GT or S-series Mercedes). Basically there is no comparison. > -- > John McKown > Systems Engineer IV > IT > > Administrative Services Group > > HealthMarkets(r) > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > (817) 255-3225 phone * > [email protected] * www.HealthMarkets.com > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or >proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the >insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance >Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The >MEGA >Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

