Ed, Did I miss the email where Darren left you in charge? You have *no* right to send anyone an email requesting a change in their behavior.
Shai is NOT a vendor...he sells nothing! I am sure glad you had no influence over the development of Linux! As to YOUR opinions and comments on this list, I believe I speak for most list subscribers in the belief that those posts would not be missed were you to decide not to post them. My $.02. Shields Up, Photon torpedoes armed and ready! Bob -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ads on IBM-MAIN Jim: I guess the real issue is that he stepped over the line. 2 (or so) years ago I sent a short note to him requesting moderation in his posts. He seems to have forgotten that is what he said he would do. Please note none of the other vendors seem to do the same thing he has done. They announce their product and usually there is little or no announcements. The new features that he added which may/may not make his product better, I don't know and do not care. I don't know why he added STARTIO support and to advertise it seems to me a who cares. Only a systems person would care frankly. Yes this list is inhabited by systems people but trying to "sell" (or give away or whatever) to systems people is probably ill advised (IMO). While it *might* be nice that the product be known to systems people the people who make the final decision tend not to be our types. We may influence them but sign a contract usually not (I have a story about that but will do it offline if desired). Ed ps: I am *NOT* refering to any IBM product here. All the product people who give their time to the list are greatly appreciated. They support their products very well. DFSORT (Frank) might say this feature will be available in release xx (this is an example) and he does it well. The person in question seems to raise his voice until you have no other choice than to listen. Frank Yeager (sp?) does his job (IMO) superbly. Frankly (no pun intended) he does it the best. Other IBMers talk about their product in a non agressive mode which is perfect for the list. Its informative without being intrusive. We learn from it and that is what the list is for (IMO) to learn not to be yelled at about some new feature. COMPUWARE doesn't do it CA doesn't do it, CBTTAPE you hear small one or two line announcements. Likewise other vendors (except for one). Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
