> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Payne > Sent: Thursday 29 December 2005 11:08 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Legality of Hercules was (fwd) Hercules 3.03 announcement > > > I would challenge IBM to put on the Internet and publiclly make > > available a bunch of MVS > (virtual machines under VM) Thus effectively allow MVS at > home for everyone desiring to develop MVS open-source. This > will spread also MVS skills which is in IBM interest. > > I suggested this to senior IBMers on several occasions - > which may, indeed, be the reason they haven't done it.
Maybe this could be raised at SHARE/WAVV/(equivalent z/TPF user conference)? > I think there would be marketing capital in it, too. "See, > we've given every keyboard jockey who can get to a phone > unlimited access to MVS - and none of them have broken it yet." > > Unless, of course, it can be broken. And if it is...I would believe that the majority of users would be white hat types, and would find fixes and get them to IBM - just like in the pre-OCO days. > It's incredibly difficult to get concepts like this through > at IBM because at every turn you have to make a business case > to a manager whose incentive program is different to the > manager that let you get to him. The lethargic inertia inherent in the IBM management structure is probably our worst enemy. Although there are a few savvy IBM types that monitor this list (Timothy Sipples, are you listing? *g* ) and might be able to short-circuit the process. Later, Ray P.S. Phil, I owe you another pint for the boxer/leg comment last week. Next time I'm over there... -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.mrmullins.big-bear-city.ca.us/ http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/ German is essentially a form of assembly language consisting entirely of far calls heavily accented with throaty guttural sounds. --ilvi ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
