On Mar 13, 2006, at 8:18 AM, John Eells wrote:

Ed Gould wrote:

Some other sysprogs that I know don't know about it but they don't go SHARE. I would hate to think that this apparently nice facility is limited to SHARE attendees. I am not against this per se..

C'mon, Ed. Of course it's not limited to SHARE attendees. Why would we want to do that?

Well, I did not say it but the implication is there. If the information about IBM is offering the service is limited to SHARE, that is the implication. Since GUIDE no longer exist, IBM needs once again to get out of its tower and get out there and tell the troops about the new service.

Ed



The idea that any important piece of information should be disseminated as widely as possible should be the end point in this discussion. Since IBM has had this in place for 20 (++?) years with SMPHOLD data, to me makes this an ideal avenue for IBM to get information out to the end user (read sysprog) community.

HOLDDATA has indeed been around for quite a while (and a big improvement it was over EXCLUDE lists, too).

However, Enhanced HOLDDATA, which includes HOLDs for HIPERs, has not been around for 20 years. In fact, the pre-GA pilot progam wasn't even 20 years ago (more like 12). Without digging through notes and such, my best guess is that Enhanced HOLDDATA will have something close to its 10th birthday this year.

Thanks for the clarification.

I do like the idea of flash's but in truth over the years they never seemed to reach the intended community (sysprogs).

For flashes to be effective, you have remember to go find them and read them. Since they have been on a website for quite some time, this is much easier than it once was.

But I thought this discussion was about red alerts. Red alerts come to your e-mail inbox. There is no need to go look for them.

IBM has consistently (and to their credit) preached the smphold mantra. It works. Now maybe if the flash has other audiences then it serves its purposes. It appears to me that the flashes can exist side by side with smphold data they should not be mutually exclusive, so what if a flash and a holddata are sent out? No one is going to complain.

They are not mutually exclusive.

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Of course they aren't. The idea that FLASHES can be brought to the attention of the "community" is fine, but just don't assume they reach everyone. It does not hurt to have duplication (in this instance, IMO).

Ed

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