It seems IBM could do a lot to improve the value of base z/OS by
including BatchPipes
http://www.jpaulmorrison.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BatchPipes in base z/OS.
This would make it easer for people to port a process from those other
operating systems to z/OS even if batch is used on z/OS. It would reduce
the need for third party data management utilities. Someone pointed to
POSIX pipes in z/OS but that is more a tease than a feature for people
needing to build/maintain traditional MVS batch workloads. z/VM has this
capability why should it not be a base capability in all the strategic
IBM operating systems?
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and Availability Management
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ls -l | cat | grep uid | wc -c
OTOH actually calls four programs and does something that would
require 4 steps in JCL to do. (assuming you included the useless parts
that are present in this command you created). The command also
automatically opens all the necessary file descriptors
(ddnames) that are required and connects them so that the commands can
pass information to each other.
What we have is a comparison of the simplest possible JCL fragment,
against some commands that you think are cryptic. And you actually had
to string several of them together just to try to make it look "scary".
I don't fault you for thinking mainframes are fantastic. I do think,
however, that when it comes to comparing tools, it makes great sense to
have the clearest perception of the tools that is possible.
I might also add, in response to a related post, that unix people don't
brag about their "reboot" times unless they are Windows refugees.
Experienced unix folks brag about uptime and reliability just like you.
Of course most of them don't even remember that mainframes exist unless
they're watching The Matrix, so they're not really making that
comparison.
Wade Curry
AT&T Services, Inc.
Sr. Implementation Mgr
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