Charles Mills wrote:
whereas the first time a big shop, upon being quoted the price said "is
that one-time or per-month?" I realized I was leaving a heck of a lot of
money on the table with the big shops.

So I quickly joined the party and went to tiered (or as it was called then, "group") pricing.

"R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, I see you joined the party because of incomes, not because it is more fair model, or other reason. Just - bigger isntallation means more money to spend. Using this idea bigger datacenters should pay more for electricity or tape carts (blank). Why not ?

Bigger datacenters DO pay more for electricity, don't they? Bigger machines usually require more electricity, which costs more to run them. There is no electricity company I know of that charges a flat fee for a 'datacenter', regardless of size. Instead, they say "you use this much KWH, we charge you this much. You use this much KWH, we charge you this much", and so on.

On a PC, software is frequently licensed by number of users. If a company wants 1 copy of the MicroFocus workbench, it costs this much; if they want 10 copies, it costs this much. Why should mainframe software cost a single flat fee, regardless of how many people use it?

Having said that, I don't practice what I preach. As an ISV, I sell a mainframe software product to North American customers at a single flat fee of 5K per year. This amount is charged regardless of the size, speed, or number of users on the customers mainframe. However, I struggle with whether this is fair. If a small company has 10 programmers, their 5K investment should net them an annual saving of somewhere between 50K to 100K (i.e. roughly the cost of hiring an additional programmer). If they have 100 programmers, their 5K investment should net them a saving of anywhere from half a million to one million dollars a year. Does this seem fair?

Several years ago I heard a competing product was being licensed to a large company for 200K per year. While 200K might seem like a lot of money, the company had well over 1,000 programmers. If the competing product generates similar productivity savings to the ones I've just mentioned, this means the 200K investment would save the company anywhere from 5 to 10 million dollars a year. This seems like a tremendous return on investment, but smaller companies can't afford to pay 200K per year. So, does this mean smaller companies wouldn't be able to license the software? Of course not; thanks to tiered pricing, smaller companies would be charged a lot less money. In this sense, tiered pricing seems to make things more fair, not less fair.

For me, I'm still struggling with the whole pricing issue. The current flat rate of 5K per year doesn't generate enough revenue, so should I increase the flat rate for everyone, or should I keep it low for smaller customers and increase it for bigger customers? If bigger customers are charged more money, what would the increase be based on; MSUs? Seats? Concurrent usage? (Note: The idea of locking people out of software just because 'x' number of people are already using it doesn't seem very appealing to me).

It would be nice to have a pricing structure that everyone agrees is fair, but I honestly don't know what the answer is. And when I see messages posted on IBM-MAIN about the unfairness of tiered pricing, it just makes the entire decision that much more difficult.

If anyone has opinions or suggestions on this subject and would like the opportunity to influence an ISV, here's your chance. Please feel free to contact me off-list if you prefer.

Regards,

Dave Salt
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