On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:16:32 +0900, Timothy Sipples
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Announcement letters 204-310 and 204-311 (December, 2004) describe the TSM
>licensing terms and conditions if you'd like to get the official scoop.
>
Come on  ,enough theory 
Since when to you run a budget by reading announcement letters ?
How do you find client and server prices ?   
Come back to real life , do like me ,call an ibm sales person tell him/her
that you are on TSM 5.1 ,that as the support is stopping , you want to move
 to 5.3 
Tell them that you have 200 dual processors machine to backup on  a 5000
mips Trex  running z/os
tell them the clients to backup are windows or linux and then please post
the price and the part numbers you need to order.
Then if you feel something is wrong ( like i did) , call another one and a
third one .
If they are all wrong then this is incompetence , if they are right it is
highway robbery . I don't buy from both .   
You can also ask them why IBM claims that mainframe is great to reduce the
number of servers in the computer room but if you run 5.3 on a mainframe ,
you need to buy an intel server , buy an OS then install it just to
administrate TSM .( we needed nothing in 5.1 ) and nothing on other
platforms . Interesting ? 
I am a customer and this is the real world . 
By the way thank you to the people who ended up in the same situation 
and provided me by mail with the products they used for replacement and 
their experience on mips consumption and backup speed .
PS: personally i liked the idea of pricing based on the number 
of terabytes to be save . An intelligent solution .and i already called
them .
Bruno
Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr

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