> I guess that means that you think they can't install MVS. In all the > years > I've been in this business, people have been telling me that this group or > that is full if idiots. People who were incapable of learning, or worse, > that anything that they might learn will only make them screw things up > worse. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." I call it the user- > dummy syndrome. I have variously been told that users, programmers, > operators, analysts, vendors, managers and customers are dummys.
-I- am not telling you anything of the sort. I am telling you that customers who write big checks for enterprise software products have made enough fuss about this issue that pretty much all of the vendors provide gooberware to assist with installation and configuration of their software. You can choose to believe me or not, I won't lose any sleep either way. > I can assure you that many vendors produce inferior SMP/E. SMP/E is a > powerful tool, and when the SYSMODs are coded correctly, it makes > installing and maintaining a system easy. When PTFs are sent without the > REQs coded properly and the vendor tells me to BYPASS ID, I have to wonder > why they bother with SMP at all. So you say. On the other hand, you could apply the same reasoning to vendor employees that you did to your own peers. They are just trying to do the best job they can for their customers. That's not all good or all bad. It just is the way it is. Installation aids may NOT be to your taste perhaps, but the vendors aren't providing them to p*ss you off and they're not all incompetent. Ask yourself why the vendors would bother doing all that "extra junk" if their customers weren't asking for it? It is all very well to say you don't like assistance from the autocurse software. Fine. I could care less. What I am really annoyed about is this constant blather that (all) vendors don't have a clue what they're doing. Perhaps you could do better, but I wouldn't bet a paycheck on it. CC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
