In a message dated 8/29/2006 7:50:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>I've actually managed to run NET, TSO, and a TSO logon in  the
>MSTR subsystem. All without JES being up. Kids! Don't try this at  home!
>No, I don't remember all of the steps necessary. It was a royal  PITA.
And how did you manage to do all the PITA work necessary?  Did you  start 
JES2, then TSO (needs JESx alive to get started), then update files,  then run 
batch jobs (needs JESx to start) or started tasks (needs JESx to  start) to 
test 
out your changes?  Or did your MSTR subsystem arrive  already pre-customized 
like that from IBM?
 
My point is you can't do any meaningful work without some means of  starting 
a process (JESx) that either interacts with you (TSO) or at least  reads card 
images from some device (JESx), so that you can do the necessary  PITA work.  
After having used JESx to help you do all the work to  customize the system, 
then you can run TSO from MSTR, but not as the system  comes from IBM.
 
Bill  Fairchild




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