John, I don't think it is perverse at all. One should be able to do almost everything from the shell. Why should I work in ISPF if I am more comfortable with sh or bash? (We definitely need more ported editors, too.)
There is some sdsf thingy on the tools and toys page, if you didn't already try it: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/bpxa1ty2.html -- Lindy -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: What part of z/OS is the OS? And even though it is "perverse", I'm trying to see how much I can get done from a UNIX shell in z/OS without using TSO at all. OK, not too much right now. I'm too stuck on things like SDSF. And the vi editor which comes with z/OS is not very good, compared to the vim that I'm used to on Linux/Intel. I've really made myself a PAIN over on MVS-OE wanting things in z/OS UNIX simply to make like easier in a "UNIX shell" environment. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

