John,

I don't think it is perverse at all.  One should be able to do almost 
everything from the shell.  Why should I work in ISPF if I am more comfortable 
with sh or bash?  (We definitely need more ported editors, too.)

There is some sdsf thingy on the tools and toys page, if you didn't already try 
it:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/bpxa1ty2.html

--

Lindy

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
McKown, John
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?


And even though it is "perverse", I'm trying to see how much I can get
done from a UNIX shell in z/OS without using TSO at all. OK, not too
much right now. I'm too stuck on things like SDSF. And the vi editor
which comes with z/OS is not very good, compared to the vim that I'm
used to on Linux/Intel. I've really made myself a PAIN over on MVS-OE
wanting things in z/OS UNIX simply to make like easier in a "UNIX shell"
environment.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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