Ed, If that was a rumor than that's all it was. It's certainly in IBM's best interest to keep SHARE happy, since most of its largest customers attend. A dialogue in which only one party dictates the terms is useless to both sides and a waste of time and money. I've never seen any evidence of this.
In contrast to what you are saying, almost every IBMer I've met at SHARE has been more than helpful, honest, and interested in doing the right thing. Maybe the very senior management of SHARE has been doing this without letting any of the membership know, but I doubt it. Ed, as others have mentioned, SHARE is a volunteer organization. I'm personally tired of you making unwarranted aspersions about this organization based on some rumor you heard ten years ago. A lot of people work very hard to make SHARE happen, and many of the statements you make are sweeping, unsupported generalizations that are a slap in the face to all of the IBMers and customers who work so hard to present excellent sessions. Tom Harper NEON Enterprise Software, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ....) On Mar 22, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Gerhard Adam wrote: >> Where is SHARE? they are afraid to raise their voice to IBM. >> Share is now a gofor for IBM. The management at SHARE is afraid >> to say one word to IBM as they might pull out. Frankly it would be >> better if SHARE got a spine but I don't see it happening any time >> soon. >> > > I understand what you're saying, but don't get me started. What > you're describing extends far beyond the SHARE/IBM relationship. > > Adam Adam, Go ahead get started after all this is mainframe related:) There was a *RUMOR* going around 10 or so years ago that IBM told SHARE exactly what was allowed and any deviation from that would get an instant IBM withdrawal from all future SHARE meetings. Share reportedly said yes sir and that was the beginning of the thew master slave relationship. Again this was rumor but heard from several high ranking SHARE ribbon holders. Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

