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As you are a not to regular person here it seems an on going issue with people not seeing other people at SHARE. There was an exchange about SCIDS on here as well. The big name regulars have made it a point to have meetings at the IBM-Main table. I showed up for one such event and was ignored even though I tried to engage in conversation with several regulars on here. I have boycotted such meetings as for some reason they seem to recognize each other quite well.

It was quite obvious that when it came to making a decision between which group IBM would support when it came to a GUIDE/SHARE choice that IBM took the SHARE group as they could influence (bully might be a better word) SHARE easier. GUIDE was really giving IBM what for for about 10 years and when it came to picking it was an easy choice for IBM as their knew they could bend SHARE with their little pinky. GUIDE had to many powerful people so it was an easier decision.
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I'm not overjoyed with the SHARE/IBM relationship myself. But I think that at least part of the problem stems from SHARE members making unrealistic demands on IBM. While many of the "Requirements" generated by SHARE are quite reasonable, every once in a while I see something that seems, at least to me, to make very little sense. And let's face it, IBM, like many other large corporations, is ruled by the "Shekel counters" in the accounting department. In many ways, large corporations like IBM and some of the ISV's are ruining this industry. High costs are driving the trends toward client/server architectures for small and medium sized shops, like my former employers (who scrapped out all the mainframe equipment last year). Most, if not all, the problem is driven by ISV costs, for software issues that IBM doesn't address. Whatever happened to IBM's deep discounts for educational institutions? Why do ISV's think they need to recover all their development costs in the first year of a new package's availability? Why do they think that a machine upgrade is just so their software gets more service AND USAGE? Just going to a bigger machine does NOT mean that I will use YOUR software any more? ISV's, let's get back to reality; as Robin Williams once said, "It's a helluve concept!"

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