>>Mark Zelden wrote:
><snip>
>>
>> I don't think I've ever seen a statement that indicates IBM won't do
>> something like that again with z/OS.
>>
><snip>
>
>John Eells wrote:
>You haven't seen one that says we will, either (grin).  Back
>then, DFSMSdfp was a "nonexclusive element" with its own product
>number so that it could be ordered separately.  Now, it's not.
>

I started using IBM operating systems around 1980 and was taught to expect 
change. My mentor told me, 'IBM goes through cycles of bundling products 
together and then unbundling them.' When I first installed DB2 V1R2 it came 
with utilities that are now separately orderable. Even if I read a statement 
that declared they do not plan to unbundle or bundle something, plans and 
statements can change. The good news for me, with z/OS, is how much 
easier it is to order. And since I am not looking to pick and choose my own 
levels, happily install what comes on ServerPac.

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