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You hit it on the nail head. I have seen so called sysprogs do things by the book and never ask any questions. I have on occasion gone over the install and found questions that *SHOULD* have been asked by the sysprog. I am talking about SVC's and or replacement of IBM modules with the vendor modules and/or front ending IBM modules.

I took a senior sysprog to task for such a attitude and got back the attitude well they needed it installed. On another occasion a ex sysprog (now a capacity planner) tried to sneak some APF libraries and other parmlib changes into production. I went ballastic and went to his boss and asked about ownership of parmlib and got back the attitude. He owned the system he was VP of operations. I walked straight up to auditing and squealed on the VP. He was called onto the carpet for it and he was really pissed at me. He had to come over and apologize. I just ragged on him some more for not going through change control. It delayed the installation by a week. I was not happy at all. I asked for the sysprog (ex) privileges be taken away and they were to an extent. He didn't think I kept track but I did. He tried something again a few months later and I caught him red handed. I again took it straight to the auditor and the VP was fired.

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We took a slightly different approach, Ed. ALL private SVC's and modules that front-ended or replaced IBM modules had to be provided to us in source form, with all macros, etc. required for assembly. NDA's were properly executed and code was provided, or we didn't buy the product. Period. The entire Systems staff then reviewed the source code and if we saw something that didn't look right, the vendor had to explain, in written detail, just what was going on in the code. Some vendors hated us for this; others cooperated, however grudgingly.

Wish I could use some of what I learned, but those DNA's are, to my knowledge, still in effect.

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