I concur with this sentiment... Last week I was approached for a SSP position and the recruiter thought they were doing me a favor by offering me the whopping salary of 65-69 a year! They wanted z/OS (ALL flavors), CICS, IMS, DB2, the usual SMP/E, Assembler, Cobol, CA, ISV products, 24x7 coverage, yada, yada, yada...
Were I still my younger self, I would have made some very disparaging remark and suggest they place the offer someplace where the sun never shines. However, with age comes patience so I suggested they look elsewhere... -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mullins Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sysprog demand That's my observation, too, and it's not just sysprogs, it is application and ISV developers. Yet when there's an opening, recruiters come out of the woodwork, and they can't understand when we turn down that $35/hour no- bennies senior sysprog opportunity. Back to that "maximize profit at the expense of the company's business health" mentality. A local (Sacratomato) large non-government z/OS shop published a request for a 6-month sysprog contract. I received three phone calls yesterday from consulting companies about it. (As I just recently changed positions, I'm not looking right now; contact me off-list if anyone wants info.) Later, Ray -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.mrmullins.big-bear-city.ca.us/ > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Paul D'Angelo > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 05:49 > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: sysprog demand > > >From my perspective , there isnt a Shortage of Mainframe Systems People. > Companies today simply do NOT want to pay for the expertise. > Most Sys-Progs I know are not Just specializing in CICS or Z/OS or RACF. > The Companise I have seen want multiple skill sets and DO NOT WANT TO > PAY for That Knowledge Base. > My 2 cents > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/918 - Release Date: 7/25/2007 2:55 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html