> ------------------------<snip>-------------------------- > I agree that techies for the most part don't make good managers. I was > one of those techies that moved into management. I was actually moved > from the position of lead capacity planner to the director of security. > hat was probably too big a jump because I made a terrible manager at > that level and hated coming into work every day. After 2 years I > requested to be moved back into capacity planning and upper management > agreed. As many probably know that didn't really work either because now > I had been "given a chance" and "blew it". No more future of any kind at > that company so I left for a new experience. Personally I'd much rather > work for a good manager who might need some "training" in the technical > areas that a good techie who couldn't manage his way out of the > proverbial paper bag. > ---------------------------<snip #2>-------------------- > I had a similar experience. But having a know-nothing manager hs > considerable drawbacks. Like a manager that decides to update catalog > management to support multiple level aliases by reading microfiche > listings and creating ZAPS to existing code. He was rather upset when I > refused to support this "pet project" of his. He also didn't like being > contradicted when he made wild claims to management and was informed > that either they were impossible, or they were incredibly risky. When he > delivered an ultimatum to senior management to "do it my way or do it > without me", he was very quickly invited to seek "other challenges". > Nobody really missed him very much. > ----------------------------<unsnip>-----------------------
I will admit that the manager has to know his limits and defer to the technically knowledgeable when warranted. A manager who thinks he knows it all and dictates what will happen technically makes the work place a hell for everyone and eventually ends up on the street like yours did or ends up loosing all his good talent. As to a previous response to my post suggesting that the person who left after training might not have gotten the pay raise expected, that could very well have been since I was not in a position to know his salary. However, during that time I constantly checked my salary against the going rate and felt I was not far enough off to warrant a move. I left that company about 5 years later for a more challenging position technically, not for the salary necessarily. ***************************************************************************** If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. ***************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
