Exactly my point.  It is bad enough with normal programs.  The Diagnose
instruction interface is constantly changing.  I prefer not to shoot myself
in the foot.

I don't expect to see IBM publish the Diagnose instruction interface
specification.

I certainly don't expect to see any IT management group permitting its use.

John P. Baker

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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:25 PM
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Subject: Re: It keeps getting uglier
 
This happened once with my buggy program.  I hosed CSA, the system  crashed,

and the operator reIPLed and warm started JES2 which immediately reran  my 
job.  Boom - one more crash.  I knew immediately after the first  crash what
to 
do to fix my bug, but I couldn't fix it until the system stopped
autocrashing 
due to the JES2 initialization parameter to restart all jobs that  were 
running upon warm start.  I managed to intervene before the third  crash.
 
Your scenario has more blameworthy actions than you described: (1) the
programmer whose program uses an interface that is not guaranteed to remain
constant; (2) the programmer's (probable) lack of  properly documenting his
program's dangerous nature; (3) management's allowing such a program to be
installed in production while the programmer was still  employed; (4)
management's not doing a thorough job of review and turnover of  that
programmer's programs when he left employment; and (5) setting a JES2
initialization parameter that guarantees an infinite loop of crashes as well
as  production speedup when no wayward program crashed the system (which is
usually  the case).  There is plenty of blame to be shared and lawyered
against, although I seriously doubt that management would let the lawyers go
after management.
 
Bill Fairchild
Franklin, TN

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