On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Rick Fochtman wrote:
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We finally agree on something. One of the many standards we
implemented at a company I worked for was that a program could
*NOT* use display upon console for *ANYTHING*. The traffic on the
console was to great for any operator to notice anything from a
program. Or a request from a program to get input from an
operator. Perhaps in the 1400 era that was permissible but in a
multiprogramming environment it is ridiculous to expect an
operator to reply to a program there could be over 100+ programs
running at any given instant and the operator is too busy to care
what program is asking for.When MVS first came out 2.0 there were
in fact many D23 abends (commtask) and any program that had a WTOR
outstanding took the abend.Nowdays it is less common for a D23 but
the concept is the same NO WTOR's. Any program that does is
cancelled and a ticket written up on it.
Just ask any poor operator and I think you will get the same response.
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I will PARTIALLY agree with Ed. We took the Write-to-Programmer
route code off all our consoles, and allowed our programmers to use
that mechanism to get something inserted into SYSLOG, but still,
management and Operations had to check off on the message and the
reason for it being in SYSLOG. Some of our programs wrote error
counts to the log. Thanks to Dept. of Commerce rules, our SYSLOGs
were considered legal documents and were preserved on tape for 10
years. (Things can get SERIOUSLY sticky when you lose track of
several million dollars of someone else's money in a matter of
minutes!)
Rick we took the position that a file with totals was a lot safer
than console logs or paper anything. Anything that need totals must
be put into a file and if the file was needed "forever" it was kept
"forever" (usually 10 years like you said).
Ed
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