"R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote:
> >  
> >  
> > In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:27:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >> I believe someone on here said that the DOD said 15 writes over the

> > data set was good enough.
> >  
> > The latest (JUN 2001) DOD specification that I read on the Internet
said  six 
> > times is enough, but you have to write certain bit patterns.  The
German DOD 
> > wants seven times.
> 
> Gentlemen,
> Don't you think, the "magic numbers" of the rewrites comes from voodoo

> (or black magic) rather than from technological reasons ?
> Any disk taken (stolen) from DASD array contains part of 
> gazillion-elements-puzzle. Without any overwrite. If you overwrite the

> data, the only method to (try to) find the previous content is to use 
> microscope and watch magnetic domains. Try to find out what was the 
> previous value. More than gazillion-element-puzzle. After that, you 
> still have the previous excercise, that means set up array from 
> "independent" disks.
> IMHO it is much easier and cheaper to pay someone for the data.
> 
> BTW: I would like to see *technical* justification of "15-times" or
any 
> other number. Technical one, not "because mama said so".
> 
> -- 
> Radoslaw Skorupka

I also had my thoughts about the this theory to find back old data. We
once had an issue with overwritten tapes and asked a company specialized
in recovering data from damaged media for our options and they simply
said it was impossible to recover overwritten data.

Kees.
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