On this note... We have about 5000 Double-(blue) and 3000 triple density(green) Carts, due to the sensitivity of the data on them, company policy prohibits us from transporting them to the mother ship who is in the process to devouring us, even though they are encrypted, so how do you destroy them, in a eco friendly way if you cannot even sell them on. I personally think that the companies that sell them should take them back without charge and do the destroying under supervision of internal auditors of the companies involved.
Any experience from you guys that have gone thru similar situations? Regards Herbie -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: 08 Februarie 2008 08:50 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Data Erasure Products "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:27:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> I believe someone on here said that the DOD said 15 writes over the > > data set was good enough. > > > > The latest (JUN 2001) DOD specification that I read on the Internet said six > > times is enough, but you have to write certain bit patterns. The German DOD > > wants seven times. > > Gentlemen, > Don't you think, the "magic numbers" of the rewrites comes from voodoo > (or black magic) rather than from technological reasons ? > Any disk taken (stolen) from DASD array contains part of > gazillion-elements-puzzle. Without any overwrite. If you overwrite the > data, the only method to (try to) find the previous content is to use > microscope and watch magnetic domains. Try to find out what was the > previous value. More than gazillion-element-puzzle. After that, you > still have the previous excercise, that means set up array from > "independent" disks. > IMHO it is much easier and cheaper to pay someone for the data. > > BTW: I would like to see *technical* justification of "15-times" or any > other number. Technical one, not "because mama said so". > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka I also had my thoughts about the this theory to find back old data. We once had an issue with overwritten tapes and asked a company specialized in recovering data from damaged media for our options and they simply said it was impossible to recover overwritten data. Kees. ********************************************************************** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

