RON, Any documentation about "Cross OS File Exchange" from HDS?
Thanks, Shai On 4/3/08, shai hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RON, > > If the HDS box is configure and have definition for 3390 without running > ickdsf, is it posible that I from PC will create 3390 disk with the data > which is created in the PC hard disk? > > Sorry that it seem that I claim that I have the only features of SRDF, > Emulates 3390 etc..and nobody have these features. > > I sure that people understand that I mean, TCP connection, backup in PC, > DE Dupe and cheap, cheap, cheap solution which have some of the features of > other companies which their product cost much, much more money. > > As I said before, if you have the money, the best product is IBM, HDS and > EMC real disk (I hope that nobody critisize me about the order...). > > A lot of my claims is not that PC is better than MF (Sorry if you feel > that my target is to eliminate the MF from the market, I also depand on MF > like most of you) all what I said is that open as it use today is not secure > as MF (and that is normal, nobody will try to take a risk using the MF for > the web and email and playing with unknown site). > > Just to make it clear..MF is much better host than PC for production work > only if it stay less open that the PC. I have in my home PC for my kids, > this PC have a all kind of disease and intentionally I dedicate it to my > kids to do what ever they like with this PC. Be sure that I will not give my > kids to play with MF for surfing the Internet. > > Real disk are much better and faster and reliable (My product is a new > product) compare to my product. > > HDS, IBM and EMC have more features that I have and they are better > compare to my product. > > MFNetDisk have some features that real disk does not have, and some > features that real disk have. > > Sometime I feel that I need a lawyer to check every word I write, I am > sure most of you understand what I mean or maybe what I write is not clear > as I imagine. > > Thanks, > Shai > > > On 4/3/08, Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Shai, > > > > Let me see if I have this right. You have been contacted by someone with > > some model of HDS Disk array formatted for MF, but they don't have a MF > > to > > connect it to. You want to read the data from the MF formatted volumes > > via > > Fibre Channel. > > > > If that's it, then I'm afraid you are out of like. The API for Cross OS > > File > > X (HMDE, Rapid X) manages reassmbling/dissasembling the CKD records that > > are > > encpasulated in the FBA blocks of the logical volume, including the CKD > > level ECC. The problem for you is that volumes that can mounted as both > > MF > > and FBA must be formatted as such from the get go. > > > > Unless the MF volumes was formatted as a 3390-nA, 3390-nB or 3390-nC the > > storage will only let you access the volume through ESCON or FICON. The > > A/B/C designations are Hitachi internal, and relate to the direction in > > which updates are allowed (MF only, OPEN only, or swinging both ways). > > > > Ron > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of shai hess > > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:23 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM. > > > > > > RON, > > > > > > I need to access the data of the 3390 disk inside the box. There must > > > be > > > something that will enable it. The CKD is not standard in non FICON > > > interface. > > > > > > I heard that there is API which enable server to access the 3390 > > data. > > > Maybe a driver is needed in the PC. > > > > > > Can you give me more information if you familiar wit this issue. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Shai > > > > > > > > > On 4/3/08, Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Shai, > > > > > > > > Just to get things right, there is no such thing as a 3390 ot 3990 > > > > controller. There are Disk arrays that can have CKD volumes > > connected > > > by > > > > FICON or ESCON, or FBA LUNs connected through Fibre Channel or > > iSCSI. > > > > There > > > > is also a plethora of storage that is FBA Fibre Channel only and > > > there is > > > > a > > > > bunch of network attached filers that manage fibre channel storage. > > > > > > > > If you want to write to HDS a storage from a PC connected through > > > Fibre > > > > Channel, then all you have to do is mount the LUN on the server and > > > that's > > > > it. There's no API to do Fibre Channel IO. > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of Shai Hess > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:02 AM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM. > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > I know that some 3390 controller allow direct attached PC > > computer > > > to > > > > > their > > > > > controller using fiber channel or any other connection. > > > > > > > > > > I know that they have API to communicate with the 3390 data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody can help me with that. I have a request from smeone who > > > ask to > > > > > copy from pc to Hitachi controller which is not connected to MVS > > os > > > > > their > > > > > 3390 data from PC. > > > > > > > > > > That can make MFNetDisk a better product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Shai > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --- > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN > > > INFO > > > > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN > > > INFO > > > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
