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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
> 
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> One of my favorite requests was for a vendor doing a 
> conversion. He wanted all the passwords for user accounts in 
> RACF. After being told three times that it was encrypted and 
> not obtainable he went away muttering.
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> I would have sent his bleeding body back to the vendor in a 
> garbage bag, with a demand for someone who knew what he was 
> doing. Asking for passwords is ludicrous and he should have 
> learned that early in his training (if he had any!) And if 
> the vendor can't make the cut-over without breaching 
> security, then it's time to find a new vendor!

You could also have said (truthfully) that RACF doesn't store passwords.
As documented in the SecAdmin Guide, RACF uses the tendered password as
a key to one-way encrypt the userID, and stores the encrypted userID.
Thus, it is (remotely) possible that a given userID could have more than
one valid password at a given time.

    -jc-

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