Whatever you have, make sure that you have documentation in place describing 
how the catalogs are backed up and how they can be recovered in your production 
system and DR. Have jobs in place so you are not trying to create them at 3am. 
THEN TEST IT. 

We use dedicated small non-sms volumes. We want nothing else on the same volume 
as the catalog. 
We back up all our catalogs every 12 hours and also create an alternate 
mastercat. We also back up all VVDS at the same time. 
Our backup data sets go to disk instead of tape.
There are two sms pools for the backups. A primary and an alternate. 
Each pool's volumes are on different control units.  
Each pool's data sets have a different HLQ that are in different UCATS. 
The print output from each backup goes to the disk pool so we can look at the 
output if the system is having catalog problems. We don't need the catalog to 
find the backup data sets or the output describing them. 
We have complete documentation and recovery procedures including jobs on our 
group web page so we can get the documentation from anywhere anytime. 

We may go a bit far with our catalog philosophy, but if anything happens to a 
catalog and we lose data, our jobs would be in jeopardy.  Catalogs do break. 


Richard J Habres
AVP - Merrill Lynch 
Mainframe Storage Ops - Dasd Administration

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted 
MacNEIL
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ICF Catalogs on SMS managed volumes

>I spent the next week fixing catalog entries and moving all catalogs to 
>non-SMS. I'd advise against SMS
managed catalogs volumes

Things have changed.
I've had both, and I'd recommend SMS management, now.
Why manually manage when you don't have to?

-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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