George Fogg wrote:
I'm confused. Is this an advertisement on IBM-MAIN?
George Fogg

Richards, Robert B. wrote:
I would say *NO*, it is not really an advertisement. It's more like a
"FOR YOUR INFORMATION".
Advertising generally expects some return on investment. Clearly stated,
"There is no tuition fee for this workshop" sets the expectation that
IBM is not doing this for educational revenue.

This isn't exactly a user group meeting that's being announced. And, consider the source...

I get invitations all the time, from IBM and other software and hardware vendors, to attend "free" workshops. Some are events held at local area hotels -- lunch included. An increasing number are in the form of webcasts. But, AFAICT there is only one person (of the 5,000+ subscribers) that posts such invitations on IBM-MAIN.

Does a software vendor, offering a "free" workshop to discuss problems for which they provide priced "solutions" constitute advertising? Regardless of what you call them, are such postings consistent with the overarching "spirit" of IBM-MAIN? What about these recent examples from the same poster -- some containing specific pricing information, FUD about competitors, etc?

http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0806&L=ibm-main&P=R10900&I=1&X=-
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0806&L=ibm-main&P=R10803&I=1&X=-
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0805&L=ibm-main&P=R39688&I=1&X=-
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0805&L=ibm-main&P=R7657&I=1&X=-
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0804&L=ibm-main&P=R95816&I=1&X=-

Does IBM-MAIN have a written charter? Anything resembling Canons of Conduct? A policy statement of some kind?

Notwithstanding the comments above, I certainly don't mind being invited to these events. But, if and when I were to attend any of them, it would be with eyes wide open. TANSTAAFL! ;-)

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