Well, better late then never on this one.

Up until 12/31/1995 I worked for the largest shoe company in the United States.

BTW, as of 12/31/2008 they will close their doors as they lost their prime 
customer...good way to do business ha?  Loose one customer and you are done  
for.

Anyway, the same thing happened to me but to a major outsourcer located in FLA. 
 Hint, hey also make aircraft and have large government contracts.

The sad thing, besides the fact that all the systems people lost their jobs, 
and our executive director who became the outsources stuge and then had a heart 
attach, is that the general user community looses about 50% of the efficiency.  
Outsourcing for IT purposes glues up the works.

Call the outsourcers help desk to resolve a systems issue...fat chance in 
getting it resolve in anything shorter then 12 hours.


--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Outsourcing dilemma or debacle, you decide...
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 9:55 AM
> As I mentioned in the past, a friend is losing his job (and
> looking for the
> next one) because the company he works for is sending all
> systems
> programmer, operations and scheduling, as well as a lot of
> other
> non-mainframe, positions, to a firm in India.
>  
> Well, this past week he had to sit down and explain what he
> does and so
> forth to the "Sr." Systems Programmer sent in by
> the outsourcing firm.
> Remember, one only gets ONE chance to make a first
> impression and this was
> the outsourcing firm's one chance.  According to my
> friend, it did not look
> good.
>  
> Other than the fact that this "Sr." Systems
> Programmer has never installed
> ANY base OS, he claimed, or so it's thought, that he
> installed z/OS 1.10,
> then, it's thought, he retracted that statement and
> replaced it with he
> worked on 1.10.
>  
> Other scary thoughts..., he does not know ANY CA products,
> does not know who
> ASG, BMC, EMC are.  Never worked with WLM, SMF, SAS, MXG,
> et. al...  When
> the terms, USI, U29, UJV, U83/84/85 and TRT were mentioned
> the response was
> a blank stare.  Does not know what a VVDS, VVR, NVR is. 
> Never used IPCS,
> ISMF, HCD, and IOCDS related "stuff".  Claimed he
> "knows" OSA but wanted to
> be shown how to configure it, etc...  He even claimed he
> really knew TSO!
> Not the ISPF interface, which most people think is TSO, but
> TSO native from
> the command prompt.  This boast was made because he knew
> how to drop back
> from ISPF and delete a dataset.  In fact, other than
> "SMP/E", there was
> never a hint of recognition or understanding in the eyes of
> this "Sr."
> Systems Programmer.
>  
> However, my friend went along since that is what was
> required of him.  
>  
> Yesterday this "Sr." Systems Programmer was
> rooting around the system just
> looking here and there and, as happens often enough, his
> ISPF Profile
> dataset went into extents and filled up.  What really
> ticked my friend off
> was this "Sr." Systems Programmer sent an email
> to DASD administrator asking
> her how he, this "Sr." Systems Programmer, could
> increase the size of the
> profile dataset.  He couldn't continue his duties
> because the dataset filled
> up...
>  
> Sorry for the rant, but my friend had to get it off his
> chest, and I,
> passing it along, mine.  There are plenty other examples
> but my friend just
> sighed and left at this.
>  
>  
> Gary Green
>  
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