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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler
>
>
> Howard Brazee writes:
> > It seems that more and more, systems programmers either find some
> > old-timer to mentor them or they have to shoehorn themselves into
> > positions to learn their jobs on their own.
> >
> > Companies don't want to train them. Same thing with CoBOL or PL/I
> > programmers.
>
> and how did the old timers learn their jobs?
They _invented_ them. :-)
-jc-
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