On 12 Jun 2008 08:00:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>It seems that more and more, systems programmers either find some
>old-timer to mentor them or they have to shoehorn themselves into
>positions to learn their jobs on their own.
>
>Companies don't want to train them.   Same thing with CoBOL or PL/I
>programmers.

So how does that differ from how a good number of use learned the job.
I was fortunate in being sent to Share and quite a few IBM courses.
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