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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CA-MIM/Integrity abend.
> 
> >I've said it many times.
> > If your apps people don't know how to compile, link, and 
> run, why are
> they working for you?
>  
> Unfortunately I have no input into the hiring and firing of 
> application
> folks or into their training, I just do my best to keep them from
> bothering me with stupid problems when I know how to avoid them in the
> first place. 
> 
> Jon L. Veilleux 

Agreed! As for trying to train them, as Robert Heinlein once wrote:
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the
pig." We have some programmers like that. Not many. And the real pains
have retired lately. But we still have some who ask ridiculous questions
like: "Is program ... a BMS map?" The simplest look at the source could
would tell them that.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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