Forbid Project...   I believe that was me a few weeks back.  My son got a
copy from Netflix for me and after he watched it at his place, his mother
and I watched it here; on the BIG screen. ;)

Well, those thoughts sound very plausible and logical.  My first thought was
memory leakage but I'm not close enough to the product to say that with any
semblance of experience/knowhow.

I appreciate the comments and will be passing them along in a few.

Thanks.


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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Patrick Falcone
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:38 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: WebSphere Question

Hi Gary,
   
  We had a similar problem back at my last place and *sucks the life out of
the machine* is about right.
   
  Sounds like it could be a storage leak/creep within the heap that is
causing the Java heap to go into more frequent garbage collections,
especially if the heap is lightly allocated - hopefully it's at least 512 MB
or above, as free space diminishes over time to the point where a compaction
of the Java heap may be occurring. The compaction process takes considerable
CPU to complete. I'm not sure of the reporting at this point with version 6
of WAS but turning on verbose GC, garbage collection, may shed some light on
this anomaly and if it is indeed heap space related. BTDTGTS.
   
  Of course this could also be a runaway thread, bad logic, in which case
you'll need some tracing to find the culprit but would lean on the above if
it is happening, like, late afternoons around the same time.
   
  I also wonder if log offloads might be causing this but I can't seem to
remember if this was a cause of significant CPU within WAS. I'm sure we'll
get more elegant responses in the morning.
   
  A bit off topic, sorry, I just got done watching the Forbin Project with
my son, great movie, I forget who recommended it but thanks....
  
Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  If someone knows where I should ask this question, please tell me where to
go. ;)

Otherwise...

I was chatting with the manager of the tech support group at another company
and he was telling me that in his shop they experience a terrible slowdown
in WebSphere most afternoons; "sucks the life out of the machine" comes to
mind. They do not have anyone that does performance or capacity work to "run
the numbers"; and they collect very little SMF data even if they did or knew
how to "run the numbers". He thinks it's the application programmers poorly
written code, probably Java doing some daily end of day stuff. To make
matters worse, they are still on 1.4, with plans to make a brief stopover on
1.7 before heading off to 1.9.

They are pretty much a vanilla IBM shop with a couple of DB2 V7 production
regions a couple of production CICS regions and some/few regions each for
QA, Dev and testing. I think he said WebSphere was... version 6 if that
makes sense... (I am not conversant in WebSphere). They are on a ~480 mip
Z9.

I know this is not really much to go on but does anyone have any suggestions
I could pass along? Perhaps some insight or suggested diagnostic processes?


Gary Green
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