Mark Zelden wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:28:39 -0400, Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> Shane Ginnane wrote: >> >>> Quoting Mark Zelden: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Why not migrate them directly to ML2 with HSM? That is what we do. >>>> They are only on DASD for a short time. >>>> >>>> >>> We use MPF to kick off a task to extract the dump summary and create an >>> ISPF table I use to manage the dumps. The dump itself is flicked to ML2 >>> - on virtual tapes these days, so I can get them back in next to no time >>> in need. >>> They stay there till I decide otherwise - I prefer to have too many than >>> delete one I might need later on. My (manual) purge window is around the >>> 3 month mark (picked out of the air, no science involved). >>> >>> Shane ... >>> >>> >>> >> We also use the dynamic dump allocation process and send them to our TMM >> pool where they sit for three days, HSM then migrates them to tape where >> they automatically expire in six months, a date I also picked out the air. >> >> -- >> > > I just looked at dump the MGMTCLAS and ours is set for 30 days. I can't > imagine needing a dump 6 months after it happened, but tape is cheap. > > How old is the oldest dump you recall having to go back to? > > Mark > -- > Mark Zelden > Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead > Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ > Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html > > >
We have had several occurrences of needing both dumps and archived syslog/operlog data from several months in the past. As you stated tape is cheap and I would much rather have it and not need it than the reverse. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL ---- When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

