Mark Zelden wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:28:39 -0400, Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Shane Ginnane wrote:
>>     
>>> Quoting Mark Zelden:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Why not migrate them directly to ML2 with HSM?  That is what we do.
>>>> They are only on DASD for a short time.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> We use MPF to kick off a task to extract the dump summary and create an
>>> ISPF table I use to manage the dumps. The dump itself is flicked to ML2
>>> - on virtual tapes these days, so I can get them back in next to no time
>>> in need.
>>> They stay there till I decide otherwise - I prefer to have too many than
>>> delete one I might need later on. My (manual) purge window is around the
>>> 3 month mark (picked out of the air, no science involved).
>>>
>>> Shane ...
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> We also use the dynamic dump allocation process and send them to our TMM
>> pool where they sit for three days, HSM then migrates them to tape where
>> they automatically expire in six months, a date I also picked out the air.
>>
>> --
>>     
>
> I just looked at dump the MGMTCLAS and ours is set for 30 days.   I can't 
> imagine needing a dump 6 months after it happened, but tape is cheap.  
>
> How old is the oldest dump you recall having to go back to?
>
> Mark
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>   

We have had several occurrences of needing both dumps and archived
syslog/operlog data from several months in the past. As you stated tape
is cheap and I would much rather have it and not need it than the reverse.

-- 
Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service
Tampa, FL
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