On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:03:08 -0400, Rob Scott wrote: >We all know that the PHBs are telling everyone that TSO and ISPF are dead and >that we should all be using some sort of GUI interface - however what I have >found is that the people using the software that I write get WAY more excited >at the ISPF interface functions than the web/java stuff. > >Then again - maybe my customers have a higher beard+sandles+pipe co-efficient >than most...:-) > Sounds like the UNIX programmer in Dilbert.
>-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Martin Packer >Sent: 04 September 2008 16:55 > >Personally I think we should have put a lot more effort into TSO and ISPF. >That's just a gut feeling... I can't give specifics. It's just knowing how >good CMS is that makes me feel that way about TSO. (And given that a lot of >my TSO usage is actually inside Batch I could see my Batch programming >benefiting also.) > Well, as unaccustomed to hearing me praise MVS as readers of this list are, I have free choice between MVS and CMS. I rarely touch CMS: o z/OS Unix System Services is relatively close to a real UNIX. Last I heard, CMS OpenEdition didn't even have fork(). o CMS multiprocessing capabilities are dismal. It's even harder to do 2 or more things at once with CMS than with z/OS. >Oh I CAN think of ONE specific: It would be very nice to see Object REXX run >under TSO. > Does Object Rexx run under CMS? Must be a 3rd party product. As for the garlic remarks about larger screens: Yah, but I want 2 or more screens. Or at least with one large split screen to be able to start a Search-for in one split and edit a source file in the other while it runs. Or run OMVS in one split while I do something else in another. I suspect that as soon as your initiates see that this can't be done, they become less impressed. -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

