IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> wrote on 09/05/2008 
09:39:00 AM:

> John, check your SMP/E zone.  I'm sure that's what Walter looked at. 
> Walter, check the module, like John did.  I'm betting you have the same 
> module.
> 
> Entry Type:  LMOD
> Entry Name:  ASASYMBM
> 
> To return to the previous panel, enter,END,.
> 
> To select an entry from a zone, enter,S,next to the zone.
> 
>      * - Entry not found in zone.
>     ** - Zone could not be allocated or is not initialized.
> 
>            -------------------- Status 
-----------------------------------
>    ZONE    ,LASTUPD ,        ,        ,        ,        ,        ,
>    -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- 
--------
> , ,D0710   ,HBB7740 ,        ,        ,        ,        ,        ,
> , ,D0802   ,HBB7740 ,        ,        ,        ,        ,        ,
> , ,GLOBAL  ,*       ,        ,        ,        ,        ,        ,
> , ,TARGET  ,*       ,        ,        ,        ,        ,        ,
> , ,T0710   ,HBB7740 ,        ,        ,        ,        ,        ,
> , ,T0802   ,HBB7740 ,        ,        ,        ,        ,        ,
> 
> My ASASYMBM module, when browsed, says HBB7707, but SMP/E says it's 
> HBB7740.  So, gotta go with SMP/E, since I can trace that module from 
> ServerPac to prod.

> 
> > -----Original Message-----

> > 
> > > The level of ASASYMBM that shipped with z/OS 1.9 is HBB7707. 
> > 
> > John,
> > are you sure ? ASASYMBM on my z/OS 1.9 is at HBB7740.
> > I've been following this thread because I splitted Telnet 
> > from TCPIP, too, on 1.7 in preparation for 1.9 upgrade.
> 
>  BROWSE    SYS1.MIGLIB(ASASYMBM)
>  Command ===> 
> ********************************
> .Ø......ASASYMBM.......µ 
> س..............................
> Ø..5695PMB01 ....±.é.| 
> Ø..Ø..569623400 ....±PL/X-390  .
> Ø.h......RSI12683873 
> ............ ..{...{ 
> å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
> 
> Also:
> 
>  BROWSE    SYS1.LPALIB(ASASYMBM)
>  Command ===> 
> ********************************
> .Ø......ASASYMBM.......µ 
> س..............................
> Ø..5695PMB01 ....±.é.. 
> Ø..Ø..569623400 ....±PL/X-390  .
> Ø.h......RSI12683873 
> ............ ..µ...µ 
> å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
> 
> So, I'm "reasonably" sure it's HBB7707.  :-)
> 
> Also, IBM Support said (in my PMR) that ASASYMBM had not been changed 
> since z/OS 1.2.
> 
> Anyway, you won't see the S0F8s on z/OS 1.7 regardless your level of 
> ASASYMBM, because tn3270 (telnet) didn't start calling ASASYMBM until 
z/OS 
> 1.8 (again, IBM said so in my PMR).
> 

  HBBxxxx FMIDs are full ship releases - they contain all of the parts.
  JBBxxxx FMIDs are partial - they contain only changed parts.  So to
install a JBBxxxx, you must also install all of the preceeding releases
back to the previous HBBxxxx.  MVS/370 and MVS/XA each had one HBBxxxx
followed by a string of JBBxxxx.  Some customers did not like having
to install multiple releases when doing an upgrade, so as of MVS/ESA
we went to shipping mostly HBBxxxx releases.  For a part which is 
not changed in a release, our build process goes back and finds the
last time it was compiled, and drags that version (which for a module,
is just the OBJ without recompiling it) into the current release.
So from an SMP/E point of view, the level of ASASYMBM in HBB7740
is HBB7740 (z/OS 1.9).  However, the last time it was compiled/assembled
was HBB7720 (z/OS 1.7).  And looking at the OCO source, the last time 
the source was changed was HBB7705 (z/OS 1.2). 

  Which just goes to show that even a seemingly simple question
like "when was the last time xxxxxxxxx was changed" has an answer that
depends on the context of "changed". 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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