On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:48:16 -0400, Rob Scott 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>Is there a need outside of debugging - maybe not - but does that 
invalidate the requirement? Funnily enough I considered raising a 
requirement for this very thing a few years back as I hate having to 
use reverse-engineered OCO control blocks, but I did not in the end 
because I could not see any way of convincing IBM of the 
real "business" benefit.
>...

Sometimes there are very unusual situations like a debugging 
tool so useful that IBM makes arrangements to "OEM" it, 
but finds that the tool uses unsupported interfaces.  One part of 
IBM can't use the tool (without some major rewriting it wants 
to avoid) because another part of IBM didn't provide an official
interface.  So IBM avoids the whole problem by purchasing another
vendor of tools.

Now, that might be apocryphal, and NDAs prevent me from being
more specific, but I suspect some readers of this list know the 
detals a lot better than I do.   And no, I don't really think that IBM
bought Candle just to get around rewriting a tool that used 
unsupported interfaces.   

In any case, useful tools will be written to display useful information
whether or not supported interfaces are available to gather the 
data.  And whether or not access to that information ever reaches
the level of "need".   And even IBM can suffer from the lack of those 
supported interfaces.

Pat O'Keefe

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