I believe that what Peter was saying is that in his area in the BCP, they
rarely send ++APAR's to customers that don't contain the same ++MOD
statements and text that the fixing PTF also will contain.  In other words,
they find and correct the problem, then they build the impacted modules and
build a PTF to hand over to system test.  Then the reporting customer will
be contacted to see if they are willing to implement the fix in order to
verify that the fix does satisfy the customers situation.  If the customer
agrees, an APAR is created with the same replacement modules, and the PTF is
updated to sup the APAR (or the PTF is generated with SUP cards in case an
APAR is built).
He was commenting on the process used by BCP development and support to
produce APARs, not the official definitions of what an APAR is or isn't.

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.




-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Put on APAR or wait to put on PTF?

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:40:57 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
>
>While each case may have to be evaluated separately,in Poughkeepsie at
>least, it is typically not the case that the ++APAR is a temporary fix.
>That might be more likely for a sev 1 APAR than an other, since it's even
>more important then to get the customer temporary relief from the problem
>being encountered. But in most cases in the areas in which I work, the
>++APAR is the intended final fix.
>
Ummmm ...

   Linkname: APAR Fixes
        URL:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/GIMPKG80/4.1.3

  4.1.3 "z/OS Packaging Rules"
 
____________________________________________________________________________
______
  4.1.3 APAR Fixes
   ...
   Following are some characteristics of APAR fixes:

     * Announcement - APAR fixes are not announced.
     * Licensing - APAR fixes are not individually licensed. If an APAR fix
is applicable
       to a licensed function, it is covered by the license agreement for
that function.
     * Ordering - APAR fixes are neither ordered nor formally distributed.
     * Documentation - APAR fixes have no associated documentation other
than comments
       that may be included on RETAIN or with an APAR fix package.

   Note: APAR fixes are included in a subsequent PTF.

"Neither ordered nor formally distributed" doesn't strike me as an
"intended final fix".

-- gil

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