Ed,

I think there will be a shortage when/if the dinos like us retire..
A lot of 'younger' guys and gals don't want to learn z/OS or any of it's
components. 

Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer

 
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ed Gould
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mainframe Jobs Considered Recession Proof

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Anton Britz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Anton Britz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Mainframe Jobs Considered Recession Proof
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 5:24 PM
> Hi,
> 
> Depends where and for who, I suppose ?
> 
> I am not so sure this statement applies to the following :
> 
> a) The banking/Investment sector
> b) The Car industry
> c) American Express
> d) The Retail sector
> e) EDS/HP
> f) The Re-insurance business... AIG/GENRE
> g) The unknown sector that received $2 trillion of
> emergency loans from 
> American taxpayers .. Still to be named.
> h) The Newspaper/Cable business
> i) The Airline business
> 
> Who is "still standing" ?
> 
> a) Oil Companies .. but they outsourced long before they
> where making  1 
> Billion dollars a day. Had friends that where layed off in
> Houston.. Consultants 
> and permanent employees
> b) Drug companies.. did not see them ask for "bail
> out" money yet but I did 
> see lots of new VIAGRA adverts on the local Tv channels
> c) Boeing.. Saw a TV advert they made,  praising all the
> veteran's a day a'go 
> because they need Military spending to increase.
> d) Military spending in Phoenix, AZ.. How much of the
> budget is going to AZ ?
> 
> Anton
> 

Anton:

I honestly do not not remember the year but it was in the early 90's. I
think it was called Black Tuesday in the markets. Our VP managed to force a
performance person to be laid off. Yes he was the top dollar earner in the
area (and he was not an officer) but the short sighted VP did do it.
I was unhappy to see the guy guy go as now the other people (including me)
would have to do his duties. The company I worked for was a clearing house
for options. 

There were other dates that trading fell to a low and other people were laid
off as well. The damage the VP managed to do the company has never recovered
from and now the basically threaten their employees to pick up others jobs,
if not they are laid off as well. Needless to say what once was a nice
company to work for has gone down in flames. The reputation they had has
disappeared and no good people will come within a mile of them. 

Ed




      

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